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Brief respite
Last week's issue really wore me out, so I'm glad it was well-received. I am feverishly working on editing the video interviews I took at the Renegade event into something I can post for y'all over the next couple days. Takes time, which is in short supply these days!
So, after last week's tour de force, I need a little breather from my regular PCR duties so I can finish the vid and recharge for the next session.
Some exciting things coming up in the next week or so, including, at long last, the grand opening of Forbidden Video! I sent out notices to all my "clients" to the effect that the Film Festival season seems to be over (or slowed anyway), and I will be devoting my energies back to the online store -- and this time I mean it!
That said, I received a brief, but very intense critique of The Festival and its organizers from fellow webmeister and friend, Christian Dumais (Legion Studios). I believe it also reflects some of the criticisms from the film community that should be aired. Read on...
This has nothing to do with the movies selected. This has more to do with
watching the hosts of the show treating the paying audience with disrespect
and wasting our time in efforts to appease their own egos. There’s no
greater feeling in the world than being asked to "Shut the fuck up," by one
of the hosts after dropping money to be there. Even though he insisted he
was only kidding when I called him on it, I thought his manner and choice of
words were unnecessary.
The fact is, Renegade Films seems to want to make the show about them and
not the filmmakers. I don’t need to see them putting on a drunken "comedy"
show between the films. In fact, I don’t need to see them at all. I’m aware
that they’ve done the hard work to put the show together; why undermine it
by looking like bumbling idiots? While I’m at it, I think the WONDER BOY
shorts are cute, but like most people I talked to, I also think they’re
gratuitous. All I see are five minutes that could’ve been used for someone
else’s film.
I’d like to see the festival have a more stringent screening process for the
selections. Instead of accepting any of the films submitted that fit within
the time allotted for the show, they should accept only the films that set a
certain standard. This way, it means something if your film is being shown.
Let the festival be a standard for not only local cinema, but excellent
cinema in general.
They may also want to consider trying a different venue. The problem with
shows like this is that the social aspect is as important as the
entertainment. The festival is meant to emphasize a sense of artistic
community. This is an opportunity to meet and greet with those who share
your goals and dreams, who want to perhaps make the area a better place...and
yet, the layout at the State Theater doesn’t allow for this kind of setting
without taking away from the other reason everyone is there: to watch
movies.
Lastly, I’d like to point out that your coverage of the festival was
excellent and consistent with the quality of the rest of the site. I also
applaud your amazing support to the local film community. My only hope is
that Rick Danford recognizes the amount of work and energy involved in doing
such a thing; also noting that there is no incentive for financial reward in
doing so. I’m aware that Danford likes to shill his work like the next guy
(I’m as guilty of it as anyone), but I find his constant dependence on the
local media, particularly the online community, to be bordering on
manipulative. I believe he takes it for granted and depends on the local
websites to do his work for him without having to actually do it on his own
website. After all, it’s easier to link than it is to update.
I don’t want to be all sour grapes. I really dug the hell out of FILTHY. My
only complaint is pretty much what everyone else is saying: it’s too damn
short! I could’ve easily invested another hour in that movie. It was also
great to touch base with the familiar faces from PCR. I can easily say I’m
proud to know you guys.
And the beer was good too.
Keep up the fantastic work.
Sincerely, Christian, I thank you for writing, for your continued support and for the kind words regarding our labors here. Everyone pulls together to make this happen, it's hard work, but to know you're appreciated by your peers makes all the effort worthwhile. I've gone on record as saying the same about Legion's high standards. Thanks again for your valued input, my friend.
Yes, the festival suffers from many things, like the lobby noise, and the hosts who like to drink and party, and the projection problems. The "quality" of the films is a subjective matter. I found this batch of films to be the best yet. It must be considered however, that this is an amateur film festival, and it also relies on the tastes of the people holding it to select the films showing, and the fact that they may not get loads and loads of entries. It is only their 3rd festival in less than a year. if they continue to do the show, I would expect it to improve.
I only got to say hello to Christian, and give him a handshake. I didn't even know he was around until moments before we went home, but it was a nice surprise to see his smiling mug. I wish I could have seen the "Shut the Fuck Up" moment quite honestly. I'd've jumped in, and tried to keep the peace.
The problem is, they were mad that people in the lobby were talking despite the signs, and the continued requests to keep the volume down. It's been the same at all 3 shows, the lobby is LOUD. I seriously don't think they can change that. Then Christian got mad because they seemed to focus on him. It happened to me last year. You know what I did? Kerry and I went outside and had a good old fashion fist fight!! Ok, ok I'm kidding. I apologized and then I shut the fuck the up, actually. :) Didn't take it personally, but I've traded barbs with these guys on set and whatnot, so I really didn't worry about it too much.
It was, however, the reason I stayed out of the lobby this year, and watched the films. I may have missed rubbing elbows, but I didn't miss any bad feelings or misunderstandings sent my way. :)
As far as Rick's manipulation of the press. I respectfully disagree with Christian on that point. He's just trying to get his name, and company name, out into the world, and he's using whatever means he can. I know plenty of people who don't publish his information, and who just don't care about him, or the festival. I also know of a few sites he works with on a regular basis, and they love him. He's even reviewing DVD's for one of them now. Good for him I say.
I had a good time hanging with my friends (they won best Saint y'know), and watching the best efforts of the film makers who Renegade showcased. I couldn't get through Web Of Darkness because I was falling asleep in my chair!! I'm getting so damn old Nolan!!! ARG!! :)
I'm sure I will attend future shows from these guys, and as you pointed out Nolan, people have seen them do this show, and talked about throwing their own festival for many of the reasons Christian pointed out. So in an odd way they are inspiring people. :)
Hey man, we all need to get together soon at New World Brewery again. This time I will try to show up awake!!
Take care, I'm for that, the exotic dark lager ale they seduced me with haunts me to this day. The Mad Dogs & Englishmen pub is closer to my house, tho. Thanks again for writing and don't hesitiate to send me update info on your current/future projects!
Best,
It is indeed a challenge to adapt a venue such as the State Theater (which used to be a movie theater) to a film festival; in fact you can't. I'll highlight the problems/issues with the venue, and maybe readers can come up with creative solutions:
1. THE NOISE FACTOR: There are no doors separating the auditorium from the lobby, which makes lobby chatter drift into the theater and distracts the viewer from enjoying the movie. The easiest solution to that problem is the most obvious: put doors in the two entranceways!, but that is an issue for the owners of the State to wrestle with. If film festivals are going to continue there, they may indeed opt to splurge for doors.
The problem of keeping people quiet during the films is not easily solvable. Christian is absolutely right when he states that the festivals are a social event as well as an artistic experience, and that patrons should be given an area where they can mingle and talk freely. The only alternative would be to step outside to talk, which would make for a big, loitering crowd outside the venue. To add to Noeland's encounter, I too got hissed at by the whisper nazis, but it was my bad for talking as loud as I did during the films.
Again, I say the best solution is - install doors! If the State Theater plans on hosting more independent cinema events, they should go ahead & do it, esp. since there's already talk of a S&S IV...
My main complaint about the State Theater is the tobacco factor. I'm pretty intolerant to cig smoke, and would love to have the festival in a nicotine-free environment.
2. IN-BETWEEN FILMS: Nolan was right when he cited that the tech who was in charge of cueing up the films needed that buffer time to, uh, cue the films. This left Renegade with the job of keeping the audience entertained while this was going on. I kind of like their presence on stage; I call them "The Three Stooges" (Rick would be Curly with the attitude of Moe). Keep in mind that it is Renegade's festival, and they have the right to emcee the festivities and plug their films whenever possible. More power to them. The issue of sobriety is an important one, and hopefully Renegade will respect the patrons' perceptions of that issue.
In addition, it has always been Renegade's policy to let the filmmakers (and cast/crew too) speak before the film, time-permitting, which I think is a generous gesture.
"Wonderboy" was a big hit at the original festival, and I think Renegade was having a little fun with the whole franchise. It is actually one of the most well-received movies of the night.
3. CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Nolan, I'm not sure if you were implying that Renegade or the judges were voting for their own films; I assure you that wasn't the case (as far as I know). "Web of Darkness" was not in the running, nor were any of the other short films associated with Renegade/Enigma Films, including "My Skin", which is part of "The Nightmare Collection" that Rick Danford/Enigma Films has been developing. Renegade has always set their films aside from competition (such as "The Pledge" from SSII and Jennifer Whitaker's "Child of the Apocalypse" from SSI - they were not eligible for an award) as to make it as fair as possible for the other contestants.
4. WEB vs. FILTHY: I hope no one really thinks that "Filthy" was in any type of competition with Renegade's "Web of Darkness". "Filthy" premiered at the festival, and many of our cast/crew were in attendance, therefore we had a swell of support for the showing, as I'm sure "Web" did. Keep in mind "Web" was shot years ago, and did not benefit from the recent wave of enthusiasm that "Filthy" did, simply because "Filthy" is a more current film. It would have been great to see more actors from "Web" onstage introducing the film; the fact "Filthy" had a lot more may have made it seem like a bigger deal. I appreciate your nice remarks about "Filthy", Christian.
Let's hope the S&S festivals get bigger and better in the upcoming years, and we won't have to worry about smoking and the whisper nazis as the event plays on.
- Andy Lalino
ON HIATUS
No column this week.
Plus...
• The Dark Side of the Renegade Film Festival
-- a reflection by Christian Dumais.
Nolan Canova, Noeland Collins, and Andy Lalino respond
And
Andy Lalino reviews PCR #167, and...
A special Dr. Paul Bearer fan surfaces! (both in Lettercol)
Speaking of Renegade Films, it became apparent to me before, during, and after the event that not everyone was as thrilled with Danford and Co.'s efforts as I was. Among other complaints were that too much of Renegade Films' priorities are very "in-house" and "clique-ish", catering mostly to their buddies despite rhetoric to the contrary. Well, I'm not sure I agree entirely with their format and I wasn't exactly blind to some clique-ish-ness, but I tend to overlook a lot in this business
if the net effect is to bring positive attention to the Florida arts community, although I admit being naive about the politics.
The Dark Side of the Renegade Film Festivals   by Christian A. Dumais
Dear Nolan,
I’ve been asked to write about the Saints and Sinners festival and I’ve been
half tempted to. This letter will have to do. When I wrote down my notes
regarding the show the following day, I realized that I didn’t have a good
time. If I invested the time to do an actual write up, it would’ve made my
MegaCon piece look like a love letter. (Re: "MegaPorn, 2003", Christian's scathing indictment of this year's Orlando MegaCon, published at the Slush Factory site. ---Nolan)
Christian A. Dumais
Re: "Shut The Fuck Up". Since you didn't say his name, I won't either, but I agree one of Danford's compadre's got EXTREMELY drunk and WAY out of control as the night wore on. He turned me off with his nonsense, too, but I tuned him out. I didn't even think about who might not come back because of his BS, but Renegade may want to reconsider hosting assignments.
About the between-film "comedy" bits: Some of that (I think) was to cover in-between film "down-time" for the video projector to get cued up for a new format (like switching a tape for a disc or something), while giving the independent filmmakers a chance to speak to the audience. However, the Renegade guys reappearing between films to introduce each filmmmaker (or film) to the audience too often resulted in a verbal tap-dance if there was a no-show or a technical breakdown (they really had 'em this year). This got worse and more silly as everybody got drunker and more careless (it bears repeating to the readers-at-large that the State Theater's bar is a centrally-located watering hole. Another good reason to change the festival's locale). By the end of the night, I was waiting for
someone to pass out on stage or fall off it.
The most salient point I've heard from everybody is the obvious conflict of interest in hosting a film festival -- with awards -- where the festival organizers have entries themselves! Even if no one in the company is a judge, one can't help thinking about how the odds lean. In this case, however, it was mitigated by how much humble pie Renegade and Co. had to eat over "Web of Darkness" vs "Filthy". I don't know what their criteria is for quality vs quantity for festival film entries.
As for Danford's possible manipulation of the local press, both online and off? I hope not, I've told Rick time and again to send me anything any time, and I mean it -- but I have noticed one of his favorite pasttimes is to post frequent updates with only very minor alterations to an earlier one and call it a "press release". This is a publicity ploy and, altho it can be annoying, I don't necessarily blame him for what's at stake, but it needs fine-tuning, yes. Every editor has a choice to reject it for publication, so I would suggest saving the press releases for when they truly warrant it. Very minor updates are best suited for personal emails.
Going back to subject of the fest's "clique" mentality rubbing everyone the wrong way, perhaps the most damning evidence is how much talk I heard from others wanting to put on their own festivals! That's where competition will pare down to the truly constructive events.
Despite all this, Rick Danford was much friendlier to me and much more approachable than before. Kerry Hogan I never seem to catch at a good time and Porl Denicolo is just plain weird.
It was good seeing you, too, Christian. I wish I could've stopped for a beer with you, but I was always in a rush and working on very little sleep (as usual). We'll catch up at the pub or something.
Nolan
Noeland Collins (Present Day Productions) responds to Christian Dumais
Just got done reading Christian's review of the festival. I'm gonna play devil's advocate a little bit. I am aware of his altercation with one of the Renegades, and it's too bad he let it taint his entire opinion of the show. I really like Christian, and I think he's a great writer (needs to try his talent with a screenplay or 2 some time) with a cool website. I am also aware of how the Renegade guys can turn people off. I've worked with Rick more so than Kerry and Porl, and Rick and I get along very well. But I honestly like all 3 of them, and respect what they have tried to do with the festival. Even if they are promoting their own films. I don't see anything wrong with that. As Christian pointed out, we're all guilty of it on some level.
Noeland Collins
Seriously, thanks for writing in another perspective of the Renegade Universe. I agree that, generally speaking, the quality of S&S film choices was the highest at this event. I didn't know the "I'll Save You" people were friends of yours, congratulations on their win, excellent flick!
The loud lobby noise could be controlled more if there were doors leading to the theater, but there are none.
I trust by now some of the Renegade boys are well aware that some of their public relations skills may need improvement. The stress of a full-blown event is what tests people. You can't keep people coming back, to say nothing of winning converts, by losing your cool under duress (and/or intoxication) and screaming expletives at patrons.
Nolan
Andy Lalino (14 Awards for "Filthy") responds to everybody
Nolan, Christian & Noeland,
Thanks for the input on the SSIII festival. Although I'm not part of Renegade Films, I know they are very receptive to suggestions that will make future S&S festivals even better. Believe me, they do listen to criticism and work to improve them. I thought a lot of points that both Christian and Nolan pointed out were fair and are worth discussing.
(This is an EXTREMELY important point and one that needs emphasis on their website and literature: that their own films were and are exempt from the competition. I didn't see anything like that on the site being mentioned -- perhaps they assumed everyone knew that -- but I took it for granted the contest judges would be fair anyway. My comment about "their slice of humble pie over 'Web of Darkness' vs 'Filthy'" is perhaps unfair upon reflection that the Renegades did go to great length to refer to "Web" as a "rough cut" and not ready for critical viewing. I wouldn't know if "Wonderboy" could've been considered a serious entry or not. However, I can understand newcomers contemplating entering the competition being uncomfortable that the organizers own films being exempt isn't made more explicit, exacerbated by overheard rumors of insider favoritism. Perhaps future press releases and website updates will reflect this more conspicuously.--Nolan)
Birthday wishes go out to "little brother" Ronald Canova, who turns (gulp) 45, this Friday the 13th!! Many happy returns, I'll try and buy a typically cheap present in time.
What happened to Plastic People? Your guess is as good as mine. After a couple brief communications and promises to deliver, Matt Cerrato disappeared. Matt's and my relationship has been pock-marked by such shenanigans for 25 years. Each time he promises "this time'll be different." Sigh...whatever. I'm sorrier for the fans he's letting down. Never say "never" I always say, but we'll see...
Christian Dumais is shredding his keyboard currently with his work at Legion and the Renegade commentary above. Coincidentally at a time when our own Brandon Jones is looking back on the comics' scare of the '50s, Christian's new column on Slush Factory shows how little things have changed in 50 years!
My video of the Renegade interviews in nearing completion and hopefully will be ready to view via streaming video by week's end!
Forbidden Video is ready to rock. Hopefully, this, too, will enjoy it's long-delayed grand opening by week's end!
This week's issue
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